It's a trap!

[Nibelung44]

I'm again confronted against this very hard mission. A city in riot, once you free the VIP, firebrand is delayed 8 turns and reinforcements arrive each turn.
Luckily for me, this time, a squad of 4 insurgents help me on the other side of the town and have already attracted one of the reinforcement; But this is still very tense, don't know if I'll make it.

Can this mission be detected before hand?

[DerAva]

This looks like it's a mission from the "Additional Mission Types" mod and is called "Rescue VIP from rioting city". So just check the objective beforehand and you can avoid them if you see this as the objective.

[Nibelung44]

Ok thanks. Admittedly the mod warned me ... twice. There is a summary indeed before the mission (I missed it), but also during the mission you can evacuate before Firebrand is delayed 8 turns. It is only delayed if you free the prisoner. And you know there is something amiss when you unlock the prison door and you still don't have control of the VIP.

[Jeckhyl]

BTW there are trap missions in Long War 2 ; what are the conditions to get them ?

[LordYanaek]

The real LW2 trap mission is the "Snare" mission. It requires Alert Level (ADVENT Strength on the geoscape) at least 7 and appears as a Hack mission. It will have more and stronger aliens than expected and reinforcements will drop with much higher frequency, usually every turn after you break concealment.

[modjo]

I'm pretty sure i had a very trap feeling mission that was destroy the beacon. Did I just screw up bad or is it possible?

[LordYanaek]

It shouldn't unless Pavonis added a new variation of the Snare mission.
However reinforcements car vary greatly based on Alert Level (Strength) so if this mission was part of the liberation chain (+3 Alert level) in a high Alert region you might get some pretty fast reinforcements. In addition the reinforcements are somewhat randomized and there is a Dark Event that can affect them.
I have recently added the result of ini digging to UFOpedia if you want some numbers.

[marceror]

This is why we should all listed to the wisdom of Admiral Ackbar:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4F4qzPbcFiA

[Jeckhyl]

The real LW2 trap mission is the "Snare" mission. It requires Alert Level (ADVENT Strength on the geoscape) at least 7 and appears as a Hack mission. It will have more and stronger aliens than expected and reinforcements will drop with much higher frequency, usually every turn after you break concealment.

Thank you !

[chrisb]

BTW there are trap missions in Long War 2 ; what are the conditions to get them ?

Here's a full list of the requirements/info that I could find between the configs and the template.

• There can only be 1 in the world.
• It has a 21-32 day global cooldown.
• It only spawns in a contacted region.
• The region must have at least 7 Strength and 5 Vigilance
• There must be a faceless in the region.
• The mission will always be a "hack" type of mission.
• The mission duration is between 9-12 days.
• It has 0 intel required to start detecting the mission and has a very high probability of being detected early.
• The Strength of the mission is decreased by 1.
• The Force Level of the mission is increased by 1.

So basically if you see a hack mission with 9+ days remaining in a strength 7+ region it's likely a Snare mission. The time remaining will vary depending on how many rebels are on intel.

Realistically the Snare mission is easily avoided. Most of the time your not going mass intel in a high strength region due to the risk of retals, which get quite brutal at strength 7+.

[marceror]

BTW there are trap missions in Long War 2 ; what are the conditions to get them ?

Here's a full list of the requirements/info that I could find between the configs and the template.

• There can only be 1 in the world.
• It has a 21-32 day global cooldown.
• It only spawns in a contacted region.
• The region must have at least 7 Strength and 5 Vigilance
• There must be a faceless in the region.
• The mission will always be a "hack" type of mission.
• The mission duration is between 9-12 days.
• It has 0 intel required to start detecting the mission and has a very high probability of being detected early.
• The Strength of the mission is decreased by 1.
• The Force Level of the mission is increased by 1.

So basically if you see a hack mission with 9+ days remaining in a strength 7+ region it's likely a Snare mission. The time remaining will vary depending on how many rebels are on intel.

Realistically the Snare mission is easily avoided. Most of the time your not going mass intel in a high strength region due to the risk of retals, which get quite brutal at strength 7+.

If you set up a trap mission well, there's no reason to really avoid it. Bring a good shinobi, or two, who is/are specialized in stealth. Get your party to a good position where your specialist can line of sight hack the objective. If necessary, rain hell on any defenders guarding the objective. Get your evac flares out immediately upon launching your ambush, and/or hacking the objective.

Alternatively... if once you're on the map it just doesn't look doable, find a safe corner to call for evac and get out. You should at least still get some experience for your efforts, and perhaps a bauble or two.

Personally, I've had a lot of fun trying to turn the trap around on Advent.

[dstar3k]

It shouldn't unless Pavonis added a new variation of the Snare mission.
However reinforcements car vary greatly based on Alert Level (Strength) so if this mission was part of the liberation chain (+3 Alert level) in a high Alert region you might get some pretty fast reinforcements. In addition the reinforcements are somewhat randomized and there is a Dark Event that can affect them.
I have recently added the result of ini digging to UFOpedia if you want some numbers.

Quick question... aren't the Min and Max headers on the Turns Before Reinforcements section swapped, as Min is larger than Max for all rows in that section? Or am I missing something?

[LordYanaek]

Quick question... aren't the Min and Max headers on the Turns Before Reinforcements section swapped, as Min is larger than Max for all rows in that section? Or am I missing something?

Thanks, good catch.
Stupid spreadsheet error, i just kept the same order as the bucket columns but of course when the bucket is minimal, the number of turns it takes to fill it is max

If you set up a trap mission well, there's no reason to really avoid it. Bring a good shinobi, or two, who is/are specialized in stealth. Get your party to a good position where your specialist can line of sight hack the objective. If necessary, rain hell on any defenders guarding the objective. Get your evac flares out immediately upon launching your ambush, and/or hacking the objective.

I expect this will become way harder in 1.3 if they up the minimal evac timer from 1 turn to 3-4 as was discussed. Having reinforcements drop on your stealth group every turn while waiting for the evac will probably result in a wipe.