Shinobi no longer gets a hacking stat bonus?

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nmkaplan
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Shinobi no longer gets a hacking stat bonus?

Post by nmkaplan »

Just diving into 1.3 and really liking the increased variety and de-focus on stealth. Really nice job.

In 1.2, newly promoted Shinobi soldiers got a bonus to their hack stat, right? They'd sit in the 20-30 range for hacking and get something like 15-40% chance for rewards when hacking objectives.

It seems like this bonus is gone in 1.3? Seems to me to be a bit over the top. I love the big picture nerfs to stealth, but it seems to me that if you are actually able to pull off a Shinobi stealth op now, it doesn't seem OP to have a 20-30% chance at a hack reward.

This small change wasn't mentioned in the patch notes. Was it intended?
Jadiel
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Re: Shinobi no longer gets a hacking stat bonus?

Post by Jadiel »

I'm pretty sure it hasn't changed, but I think you're remembering the bonus as being higher than it actually was. Squaddie Shinobis usually end up with a Hack score of 15-25, which is about 10 points higher than everyone else (except Specialists, obviously).
Lisranda
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Re: Shinobi no longer gets a hacking stat bonus?

Post by Lisranda »

Specialists get 40 Hacking at Squaddie, and an additional 5 every level after that, so they get a BIG bonus as soon as you first promote them.

Shinobis have never gotten that BIG bonus when you first promote them. They DO get 5 hacking per level though, on par with Specialists. Shinobis will become competent hackers who can pull off 20%s as they get promoted, they just need some time to get there.

In my final 1.2 campaign, I gave them a 20 point bonus at Squaddie and 4 every level after (+13 total possible points at max level) to sort of cement them as the "alternate" hacker. I enjoyed that tweak. I'm not playing with it in 1.3 currently.
Thrair
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Re: Shinobi no longer gets a hacking stat bonus?

Post by Thrair »

Yeah. Shinobi don't get a large hack bonus at Squaddie. But they do get a bit from every rank.


As an aside, SPARKs got some big buffs to Hack. Start with more, get more through their BIT Upgrades, etc. They'll serve well enough as alternate hackers, especially as they can do so from range like a Specialist.
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